Recently, the outgoing Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, wanted to fire the House Chaplain, Patrick J. Conroy. Initially, he did fire him. Now come reports that this is not final. In any event, Dr. Matt Spalding of Hillsdale College joins Jerry Newcombe on Vocal Point to discuss the whole idea of a congressional chaplain and the “separation of church and state” and this on-going debate. Matt Spalding is the editor of The Heritage Guide to the Constitution. www.hillsdale.edu

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