The recent killing of an innocent lady in San Francisco allegedly by an illegal immigrant with a bad criminal record who had been deported in the past underscores the problem of “sanctuary cities,” of which San Francisco is a prominent one. Attorney Norman Shabel discusses the problems with these sanctuary cities with Jerry Newcombe. www.normanshabel.com

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